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Re: BMW 357is

Postby Zedzag » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:20 pm

What are the dimensions of that trans with the shift rods etc bolted up? How wide is it? Looks like you may need to use an internal linkage type trans like a T-56 or TKO 500/600. Check out Kiesler's website as they have tons of options that may work.
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby lowside67 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:46 pm

I need 7" of clearance off center for the rods, it basically ends up squarely against my leg, ergonomically pretty nasty.

Anybody want a good deal on a Jerico that has a bigger car than mine? It wouldnt be such a big deal except that I need to have my seat squarely against the tunnel to get centered on the wheel and maximize head room on the halo bar).

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Re: BMW 357is

Postby crazycanadian » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:40 pm

lowside67 wrote:I need 7" of clearance off center for the rods, it basically ends up squarely against my leg, ergonomically pretty nasty.

Anybody want a good deal on a Jerico that has a bigger car than mine? It wouldnt be such a big deal except that I need to have my seat squarely against the tunnel to get centered on the wheel and maximize head room on the halo bar).

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Hey Mark I know you got some new mounts and everything for the kit by what about redoing them and offsetting the morning and trans to get you the clearance... I could fab up some new motor mounts really easy to make this happen...
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby lowside67 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:49 pm

Hey Adam thanks for the offer but there's not nearly that much clearance to move the motor, you couldnt move more than around 3" which still would require cutting a BUNCH more of the tunnel. Still weighing options but leaning towards saying goodbye to the Jerico.

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Re: BMW 357is

Postby crazycanadian » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:14 pm

lowside67 wrote:Hey Adam thanks for the offer but there's not nearly that much clearance to move the motor, you couldnt move more than around 3" which still would require cutting a BUNCH more of the tunnel. Still weighing options but leaning towards saying goodbye to the Jerico.

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Yah it'd be easier to cut and patch the tunnel on the pass side where you have the room to do it.. but saying goodbye to the jerico might be the best idea and just bit the bullet and source out a T56..
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby lowside67 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:47 am

Alright well I cant believe I'm saying that but here we go again...

Ebay round 2, Tex TR3/SR1 gearbox, freshly rebuilt. Gearing is close to T56 1-4 and will give me around 45mph in 1st and 75mph in 2nd, final gear is 1-1 and will be good for around 140mph. I also managed to negotiate a shifter swap to the slightly more rearward model than the one in the picture this transmission will not only fit laterally but the shifter will be substantially moved rearward which is great for me as I am sitting quite a ways back in the car now.

Hoping to get brake hardlines done tonight as well, more to update asap.

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Re: BMW 357is

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Re: BMW 357is

Postby solorex » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:12 pm

And how do you know this one's going to fit?? Surprised you painted the car first before testing the tranny/engine fitment!
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby lowside67 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:26 pm

Time... while I'm sure that trying to build a project of this magnitude is not an easy task in any situation, the time constraints of starting in January and trying to be done by April 16 to test before Knox is proving to be near impossible. The scope of this project has ballooned... there is not one original wire, brake line, fuel line, clutch line, master cylinder, light, seat, dashboard, instrument cluster, etc from the original car... every little task is a "project" and the littlest, most innocuous seeming project can bog us down with the details.

I know and wish that I was able to build the car, tear it down, then paint, however, with the short timetable, it's not really viable. I have been waiting on engine mounts for over a month that have really put me behind, since we needed to get something done on the car rather than just sitting on it waiting for the mounts, it went for paint first. Now that I have a bellhousing and the engine in, we can actually figure out where the thing is going to end up. Clearly the orientation on the new transmission is quite different than the Jerico in that the majority of the problem was the shift rods which are no longer in the way.

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Re: BMW 357is

Postby Sead » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:11 pm

Now just imagine you were married and had kids :p
Good to get this stuff rolling before priorities kick in!
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby solorex » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:20 pm

Time is always the enemy isn't it? :D Knox is coming up fast! Best of luck Mark, I have been following your build... you've got a pretty big task ahead of you still, but you'll get there! It's only money right?
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby dov » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:07 am

Holly $#!^, how many man hours have gone into this beast?
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby lowside67 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:32 am

It's tough to estimate but on average 2 of us have been working at least 20 hours a week for the past 4 weeks plus all the disassembly before Christmas. I think it's pretty easy to estimate the car has 250 hours in it + cage/fabrication + paint so far. I cant believe how long the little details take compared to the big stuff... ie the motor went in in about 45 minutes the first time but I have spent probably 6 hours on my seat bracket having built, rebuilt, and test fit it so many times to get it perfect.
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby andre4444 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:38 am

Yea, projects like this are a huge undertaking. I'm surprised you didn't just go with a standard T56 the second time around...
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby lowside67 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:39 pm

If one magically appeared on my doorstep for a good price, I probably would go that direction, however, I still cant find a good deal on a used one and at the price of a "built" T56, I'd rather have a race gearbox at a considerable weight savings (almost 50lbs ligher than a T56 monster).
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby solorex » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:11 pm

lowside67 wrote:I cant believe how long the little details take compared to the big stuff... ie the motor went in in about 45 minutes the first time but I have spent probably 6 hours on my seat bracket having built, rebuilt, and test fit it so many times to get it perfect.


I know the feeling, last year with my new engine I spent 3 hours just making a nice little aluminum bracket to mount my fuel pressure reg on my firewall. :shock: The little stuff takes forever.
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby Sead » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:27 pm

I just don't have that kind of patience in my veins. I tried with the Scirocco and did a reasonable job.

But I've almost had a rebirth with this ChumpCar thing. You can literally work on everything with a hammer(BFH), grinder and a stepper drill. If it don't fit, hammer it out of the way, cut the bracket, or drill another hole right beside. :D
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby solorex » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:31 am

^^Sounds fun.
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Re: BMW 357is

Postby lowside67 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:38 am

While there arent lots of photos to show for it, we've been hard at work on "details" while I wait for the new transmission which has put a big crimp in the timeline.

Jeremy is working on new brakelines:

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I have been working on the cockpit, the seat mount is finally complete, what a pain, but it now moves that seat damn near as close to the tunnel as is possible and is lightweight, strong, and has a few different mounting options so it's a necessary evil, and is over now.

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Starting to set up the pedals, the brake masters are now in place:

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As always, I have to extend a huge thanks to the people who have been helping make this project a reality... Vorshlag's LS swap parts are a dream to work with, I couldnt have hoped for any more drop in than that. All my buddies who have been putting in tons of labour hours on this car for nothing more than some beer and a promise of some ride-alongs: Kyle, Jeremy, Jackie, Louis, & Rich.

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Lots of work getting done in the next few days and lots of parts on order... lexan from MA Shaw, wiring harness from Speartech, manual tensioner from Katech, the list goes on and on.

Stay tuned!

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Re: BMW 357is

Postby ssimpsonG37 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:12 am

lookin good!
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